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the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and reporting. we've been unable to corroborate this in the time scale we've had tonight but you do have very good fbi sources. i want to turn to bob baer. he's the cnn contributor. does this make sense to you that this could be the sequence of events? >> oh, absolutely, but i tend to attribute more significance to the fbi of getting into petraeus' e-mails. the fbi, as a matter of course, doesn't look at affairs, doesn't read military officers' e-mails or cia officers. they have to be alerted to some sort of crime or counterintelligence problem. i can only speculate what t
the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and...
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the fbi is also investigating. general petraeus to me -- i feel heartbroken about this -- is and always will be a truly exception american hero. he is like eisenhower. eisenhower had an affair also and he didn't resign. the idea that david petraeus can be blackmailed because he has a woman friend is totally ridiculous. this man -- this man has put his life at risk for his country over and over again. somebody's going to come to him and say, you better give us secrets or i'm going to tell your wife you have a girlfriend. at some pointo have to grow up. half our presidents would have had to resign over this. >> greta: let me play devil's advocate, if he is vulnerable enough to want to hide something, the reason why you tell all in these investigations, when you get the job, you want to disclose them is so that you don't become material for blackmail. >> right. >> greta: there is also the added problem, that as a man of his great stature tdoes send a message to others in the military about -- about honor, trust and di
the fbi is also investigating. general petraeus to me -- i feel heartbroken about this -- is and always will be a truly exception american hero. he is like eisenhower. eisenhower had an affair also and he didn't resign. the idea that david petraeus can be blackmailed because he has a woman friend is totally ridiculous. this man -- this man has put his life at risk for his country over and over again. somebody's going to come to him and say, you better give us secrets or i'm going to tell your...
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the fbi believes the suspect has executed a string of bank robberies in california and washington armed with an assault rifle. a $20,000 reward is being offered for information leading to an arrest. >>> and finally, a female air force pilot is breaking more than the sound barrier with her accomplishments. major caroline jensen became the first female reservist to join the famed thunderbirds. she's been flying over 17 years and hopes to inspire the next generation of air force airmen. bet she will. >>> all right, to sports. nfl thursday night football. indy, jacksonville. the colt's rookie quarterback andrew luck scored two touchdowns on the ground against the jaguars and the indy defense came up big in a 27-10 win. >>> to college football, number 10 florida state made a dramatic fourth quarter comeback with under a minute to go scoring on a 39-yard touchdown pass and the seminoles won a squeaker over virginia tech, 28-22. >>> just ahead, bond is back. we're real excited about that. and a new take on an old president. >>> plus, "twilight" mania is in full swing. >>> and the often forgott
the fbi believes the suspect has executed a string of bank robberies in california and washington armed with an assault rifle. a $20,000 reward is being offered for information leading to an arrest. >>> and finally, a female air force pilot is breaking more than the sound barrier with her accomplishments. major caroline jensen became the first female reservist to join the famed thunderbirds. she's been flying over 17 years and hopes to inspire the next generation of air force airmen....
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fox news has learned an fbi investigation exposed the affair. sources say agents were investigating a bigger case that led them to the other woman. the woman wrote a book about general petraeus called on in. he broke the news to the president yesterday face to face at the white house asking to resign as cia director for what he called personal reasons. today general petraeus told cia staffers, quote: after being married for over 37 years i showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in extramarital affair. such behavior is unacceptable. both as a husband and a leader of the organization such as ours. this afternoon, president obama graciously accepted my resignation. general petraeus was set to testify on capitol hill next week about the terror attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. tonight, fox news has learned he will not be testifying. we have team fox coverage now. ed henry with reaction from the white house. first though to chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge live from our d.c. newsroom. catherine, you're now uncovering mu
fox news has learned an fbi investigation exposed the affair. sources say agents were investigating a bigger case that led them to the other woman. the woman wrote a book about general petraeus called on in. he broke the news to the president yesterday face to face at the white house asking to resign as cia director for what he called personal reasons. today general petraeus told cia staffers, quote: after being married for over 37 years i showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in...
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as you know, this arose from the fbi starting an investigation into an unrelated matter and they came across evidence of his sexual misconduct. at this point, there does not seem to be any evidence of anything criminal or of the mishandling of classified information. at least that we know thus far. given that, do you think that the fbi should tell congress and tell the white house about evidence they uncover of personal sexual misconduct by political figures? or should that be kept private? >> well, i believe that the standard has to be, does this have an impact on our national security? so far, we haven't seen anything that gives evidence of that. we have another balance that we have to strike, our founders had to do it, the beginning of our country, and we still do, except now with communication the way it is in a different way. and that's a balance between security and liberty. and so how do you make that balance? should congress and the president be informed of hearsay? i don't think so. what is triggered about informing the congress in any event, just talking about congress, does
as you know, this arose from the fbi starting an investigation into an unrelated matter and they came across evidence of his sexual misconduct. at this point, there does not seem to be any evidence of anything criminal or of the mishandling of classified information. at least that we know thus far. given that, do you think that the fbi should tell congress and tell the white house about evidence they uncover of personal sexual misconduct by political figures? or should that be kept private?...
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but it's unclear when the fbi probe began. >> the fbi director had the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest date. it has been going on for several month and yet now it appears that they are saying that the fbi didn't realize it until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't added a up. >> reporter: among other questions, why weren't key lawmakers told sooner? the house and senate intelligence committees weren't informed until friday. >> are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before? >> yes. absolutely. i mean, this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. >> reporter: not everyone on the hill was totally in the dark. house majority leader eric cantor said an fbi leader told him about the affair and a possible security breach in october after the investigation had begun. a u.s. official says the communications were never compromised and he was never the target of the investigation. another issue, petraeus stepped down days before he was suppos
but it's unclear when the fbi probe began. >> the fbi director had the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest date. it has been going on for several month and yet now it appears that they are saying that the fbi didn't realize it until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't added a up. >> reporter: among other questions, why weren't key lawmakers told sooner? the house and senate intelligence committees weren't...
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the tip the fbi was acting on involved a rumored affair with his biography, paula broadwell. cnn has not been able to reach her for comment and it's also not clear whether she is the woman whom petraeus admitted having an affair with that led to his resignation. petraeus did not name the woman he was having an affair on. >>> more on general putretraeusd his career from chris lawrence. >> david petraeus sent this letter to the cia staff on friday admitting he had an affair and telling the staff that he had gone to the white house on thursday and asked president obama to accept his resignation. on friday during a phone call, the white house says the president did accept petraeus' resignation, throwing his national security team into fl just days after the election. by the time david petraeus got his first taste of real combat, he was a 50-year-old major general. in 2003, he commanded the 101st airborne during its march on baghdad. it was in iraq that he rhetorically asked a reporter, tell me how this ends, suggesting trouble the u.s. would have there in later years. there he ga
the tip the fbi was acting on involved a rumored affair with his biography, paula broadwell. cnn has not been able to reach her for comment and it's also not clear whether she is the woman whom petraeus admitted having an affair with that led to his resignation. petraeus did not name the woman he was having an affair on. >>> more on general putretraeusd his career from chris lawrence. >> david petraeus sent this letter to the cia staff on friday admitting he had an affair and...
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the fbi has its own protocol in terms of how they proceed. i am going to let director -- director mueller make those calls. general petraeus had an extraordinary career. he served this country with great distinction in iraq, afghanistan, and as the head of the cia. by his own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of the cia with respect to this personal matter that he is not dealing with with his family and with his wife. it is on that basis that he tendered his resignation and is on that basis that i accepted it. i would like to emphasize that from my perspective, at least, he has provided this country and extraordinary service. we are safer because of the work that mr. petraeus has done. my main hope right now is that he and his family are able to move on. and i hope that this ends up being a single side note on what has otherwise been an extraordinary career. you know, again, i think you will have to talk to the fbi in terms of what their general protocols are when it comes to what started of
the fbi has its own protocol in terms of how they proceed. i am going to let director -- director mueller make those calls. general petraeus had an extraordinary career. he served this country with great distinction in iraq, afghanistan, and as the head of the cia. by his own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of the cia with respect to this personal matter that he is not dealing with with his family and with his wife. it is on that basis that...
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>> i think we have to let the fbi do their job. they're as good as any investigative agency in the world. they've done an outstanding job in investigations throughout the years. i think we have committees who do focus on their areas of expertise. as an example in the intelligence committee we focus on anything having to do with national security and the oversight of our intelligence communities. but you have other groups -- homeland security, you have other groups that might be focused on something that comes out as a result of this. the most important thing is we let the professionals do the job. we follow the facts and then we then as members of congress come together and make the decisions on what occurred and how things occurred. if you're talking about the benghazi issue we had four americans killed. we have to see whether there were intelligence failures. we have to make sure more importantly that americans who work for the state department or united states, anywhere in the world, are protected. and we want to see based on th
>> i think we have to let the fbi do their job. they're as good as any investigative agency in the world. they've done an outstanding job in investigations throughout the years. i think we have committees who do focus on their areas of expertise. as an example in the intelligence committee we focus on anything having to do with national security and the oversight of our intelligence communities. but you have other groups -- homeland security, you have other groups that might be focused on...
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there may be continued embarrassments within the bureaucracy of the cia, the fbi, possibly the white house, and possibly congress because we know that there kantor seems to have known what was going on 10 days before. most of the country did. a is -- it seems as we speak a sex scandal which that is mostly titillating but sincerely -- not necessarily political. it gets back to the point. we never -- petraeus was this mythical super hero. to everybody. forget about him having an affair. that happens to lots of people in high places but it seems he was behaving in a somewhat as far as we not irresponsible sort of kuby way -- goopy anway and people witness did as they did lance armstrong and others. tavis: his piece is called ."antasyland thanks for watching. as always, keep the faith. >> for more information on today's show, visit tavis smiley at pbs.org. tavis: hi, i'm tavis smiley. join me next time for a conversation with oscar nominee keira knightley on "anna karenina." that is next time. we will see you then. >> there is a saying that dr. king had that said there is always the righ
there may be continued embarrassments within the bureaucracy of the cia, the fbi, possibly the white house, and possibly congress because we know that there kantor seems to have known what was going on 10 days before. most of the country did. a is -- it seems as we speak a sex scandal which that is mostly titillating but sincerely -- not necessarily political. it gets back to the point. we never -- petraeus was this mythical super hero. to everybody. forget about him having an affair. that...
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the fbi discovered the affair months ago after jill kelly, a petra friend went to the fbi began receiving threatening e-mails from another woman. she was concerned someone was blackmailing petraeus. some question why the fbi didn't notify top members of congress before the shocking announcement. lawmakers question the timing of the resignation as cia director petraeus was supposed to testify before congress about the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. instead, cia director michael morrell will be questioned about the attack that killed chris stevens and three other americans. former cia director michael hayden said at some point petraeus should testify. >> general pet tray cause -- petraeus have personal insight because he visited libya after the attack and those owes. the timing it is mysterious. >> reporter: fox news learned that paula broadwell may have revealed classified information during a speech at her alma mater, the university of den verb. in that speech she suggests that petraeus knew almost immediately the attack was a terror attack possibly to free militia members. >>
the fbi discovered the affair months ago after jill kelly, a petra friend went to the fbi began receiving threatening e-mails from another woman. she was concerned someone was blackmailing petraeus. some question why the fbi didn't notify top members of congress before the shocking announcement. lawmakers question the timing of the resignation as cia director petraeus was supposed to testify before congress about the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. instead, cia director michael...
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[laughter] cia director resigns after the fbi uncovers e-mails showing that general david petraeus had an extramarital affair with his biographer, paula broadwell, a married mother of two. talk about unlimited access. the general was up on capitol hill talking about the benghazi hearings as we were recording this program, so we don't know what he said yet. >> we are safer because of the work that gave petraeus has main hope right now is that he and his family are able to move on and this ends up being a single side note on what has otherwise been an extraordinary career. >> extraordinary career. david petraeus is a highly decorated four-star army general with a ph.d. from princeton university. roger, you have been around for awhile. how does a smart guy like that get into a mess like this? >> i think you said it, let's get to the sex. he is america's spymaster, aside from all the other degrees and all that. he is running the cia. but he decides to conduct an affair through a gmail account, because, gosh, nobody can get access to that except maybe any 12-year-old in america. and his par
[laughter] cia director resigns after the fbi uncovers e-mails showing that general david petraeus had an extramarital affair with his biographer, paula broadwell, a married mother of two. talk about unlimited access. the general was up on capitol hill talking about the benghazi hearings as we were recording this program, so we don't know what he said yet. >> we are safer because of the work that gave petraeus has main hope right now is that he and his family are able to move on and this...
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. >> the fbi is looking into the hp account iing impropriety. deal culminated under former manager. >> former portfolio manager investors acharged today in the most lucrative insider case today. 38-year-old matthew martomo accused in illegal profits from a doctor involved in an alzheimer's drug trial. the unit owner was aware of the trades. spokesman tells cnbc that cohen and the firm are cooperating with the probe. he is the third employee that has resulted in more than 60 convictions so far. >> we appreciate the update. now let's go to the war in the middle east. still no cease fire deal. israel. you will never guess which target they took out today. that whole story continues and is up next. and she became the full time mother of three. it was soccer, and ballet, and cheerleading, and baseball. those years were crazy. so, as we go into this next phase, you know, a big part of it for us is that there isn't anything on the schedule. as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheer
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but that's what it is. >> let's talk about the fbi. by law they are supposed to inform your committee about any development of significance to this committee. that barely passed this fresh hold. is it true you have received no advance word of this and are you going to investigate the fbi's decision not to tell you an investigation had been going on for at least weeks? >> the answer is yes and yes. we seed no advance notice. it was like a lightening bolt. the way i found out i came back to washington thursday night. the staff director told me to call from press about this. i called david petraeus. as a matter of fact, i had had an appointment with him at 3:00 that afternoon. that was canceled and so then when these questions came up i obviously took action myself to try to find out and then informed my vice-chairman and i talked to the director twice. this is very hard stuff. >> are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before? >> yes, absolutely. this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i t
but that's what it is. >> let's talk about the fbi. by law they are supposed to inform your committee about any development of significance to this committee. that barely passed this fresh hold. is it true you have received no advance word of this and are you going to investigate the fbi's decision not to tell you an investigation had been going on for at least weeks? >> the answer is yes and yes. we seed no advance notice. it was like a lightening bolt. the way i found out i came...
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what is the fbi saying about this? >> well, i think they freely admit that there are no hard and fast rules for when you notify anybody else in the government that a senior intelligence official is having an affair. the general rule, and what their basic policy is, they don't tell anybody. when they're in the middle of a criminal investigation, who they're investigating. whether it's, you know, somebody in the white house or anybody. they just don't blab around town who they're investigating. now, there's a policy question here, obviously, about whether members of the intelligence committee should have been informed. they say there's a potential national security implications. the fbi and the justice department say they determined early on there weren't national security implications, that this was, at its core, not a crime, an affair. and the other thing about this is, that the fbi is sensitive to its own history, about a time when j. edgar hoover shepherded the peccadillos of official washington and parceled these th
what is the fbi saying about this? >> well, i think they freely admit that there are no hard and fast rules for when you notify anybody else in the government that a senior intelligence official is having an affair. the general rule, and what their basic policy is, they don't tell anybody. when they're in the middle of a criminal investigation, who they're investigating. whether it's, you know, somebody in the white house or anybody. they just don't blab around town who they're...
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and within two days we were able to get the fbi on the ground. i want to thank the tunisian government for making this person available to be interviewed by our lawenforcemr investigative team. it is not enough to write questions. you have to be on the ground to look people in the eye and too yearia came through and two days after the letter here we are. >> greta: and it is quite extraordinary because the investigation has been stuck and my hat goes off to you forgetting it down, for picking up the ball and running with it. but the president of the united states i suspect has just as much influence if not more than two u.s. senators so what is your explanation for the fact that you guys had to jump into this? >> my belief is that this administration is trying to run out the clocking when it comes to benghazi. this is a story that changes by the day. what do we know. we know that before the a i tack in april and june of this year the consulate was attacked twice. we know that the british withdrew their -- closed their consulate after the british a
and within two days we were able to get the fbi on the ground. i want to thank the tunisian government for making this person available to be interviewed by our lawenforcemr investigative team. it is not enough to write questions. you have to be on the ground to look people in the eye and too yearia came through and two days after the letter here we are. >> greta: and it is quite extraordinary because the investigation has been stuck and my hat goes off to you forgetting it down, for...
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she goes to the fbi. and that's how they get to the affair. >> this other woman, and we know she's not in the government and that she's not a family member, complained to the fbi about what she felt were harass k and threatening e-mails. it was that investigation that led -- they were anonymous e-mails. that led to broadwell's e-mail account. and by examining broadwell's, paula broadwell the biographer's e-mail account that's they uncovered or stumbled as they put it into this -- >> there were actually explicit e-mails between broadwell and petraeus. >> or some indication in those e-mails of an ongoing relationship. that's according to fbi officials and other officials with whom we've spoken. it was that -- and we should stress, there was never an investigation into petraeus. and they have pretty much shut down any idea that there was any kind of security or national security leaks. so this is not a criminal matter. and it would have rested there had not, and this is what is new in the last 24 hours, had
she goes to the fbi. and that's how they get to the affair. >> this other woman, and we know she's not in the government and that she's not a family member, complained to the fbi about what she felt were harass k and threatening e-mails. it was that investigation that led -- they were anonymous e-mails. that led to broadwell's e-mail account. and by examining broadwell's, paula broadwell the biographer's e-mail account that's they uncovered or stumbled as they put it into this -- >>...
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>> why was the fbi involved? this was based on a tip, right? >> yeah, yeah. we were told that a u.s. official confirmed to cnn that the investigation was that he was having an affair with paula broadwell. she, of course, is the person who wrote the biography about him. cnn has not been able to reach out to her and we take great pride in reaching out to every side of the story. we cannot tell you this is the woman he was having the affair with. no suggestion if the fbi was investigating wrongdoing on petraeus petraeus' part but putting himself in a vulnerable position of an affair. someone who might put themselves in a private position that could lend them to be vulnerable to exploitation later is a very serious concern here. >> sounds like they were worried about classified information, possibly. what about benghazi? petraeus was supposed to testify before the senate intelligence committee next week. does this have anything to do with the hearings coming up, do you think? >> the honest is, i really don't think so. if the administration really needed a fall gu
>> why was the fbi involved? this was based on a tip, right? >> yeah, yeah. we were told that a u.s. official confirmed to cnn that the investigation was that he was having an affair with paula broadwell. she, of course, is the person who wrote the biography about him. cnn has not been able to reach out to her and we take great pride in reaching out to every side of the story. we cannot tell you this is the woman he was having the affair with. no suggestion if the fbi was...
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does this lead to any reassess reassessment of how the fbi fbi-c.i.a. interact and who should be told about things that are not security related? >> it should three to that. we ought to have an investigation of how this got out, how this became public in the first place. as the lieutenant commander said, there were no underlying crimes. as you said, no underlying crimes by either of the parties. very bad judgment but no underlying crimes. and there is no reason why we should know about this in the first place and petraeus shouldn't still be in his position. >> eliot: there is going to be an investigation into the investigation and the investigation of the media that didn't know and why they didn't know. only in washington. can't government do something right. >> we do. you're going to be talking about it with bob reich, and i'm sure he'll set us straight. >> eliot: he will set us street. michael tomasky assails as always, it's great to have you here on the program. >> thanks. >> eliot: finally did we change the republicans attitude. robert reich coming
does this lead to any reassess reassessment of how the fbi fbi-c.i.a. interact and who should be told about things that are not security related? >> it should three to that. we ought to have an investigation of how this got out, how this became public in the first place. as the lieutenant commander said, there were no underlying crimes. as you said, no underlying crimes by either of the parties. very bad judgment but no underlying crimes. and there is no reason why we should know about...
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>> well, i think richard mentioned the fbi investigation of paula broadwell. paula broadwell is general petraeus' biographer, and somebody who has been close to him. in literary circles. to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morale who is a career agency analyst, michael morel has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the establishment of the u.s. intelligence office the most positive thing you could say. >> thank you, david, and richard, that's "hardball" for now. coming up next, "your business" with j.j. ramberg. since my first twenty-ninth birthday. [ female announcer ] head & shoulders. live flake free. campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do.
>> well, i think richard mentioned the fbi investigation of paula broadwell. paula broadwell is general petraeus' biographer, and somebody who has been close to him. in literary circles. to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morale who is a career agency analyst, michael morel has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the...
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overnight, fbi agents searched her home taking other boxes and a computer. there are concerns that she could ever receive the classified information. >> i do not believe based on my discussions that there was any crossover between his personal life that he was having with paula and his duties that he was carrying on as the director of the cia. she is in hiding. her father tells the new york daily news that this is about something else entirely. and the truth will come out. what also is expected to come out is a time line on the investigation. lawmakers want to know why there were not told about the probe months ago. >> we need to make sure that military secrets, the cia was protected. but many to understand the human dimension. >> allen is expected to continue his job in afghanistan. and has denied any wrongdoing. brianne carter, abc 7 news. >> opening statements under way for a former student accused of killing her roommate. alexis simpson allegedly killed her roommate in their dorm room last year. overexcite being played on her ipod. her attorney argues it
overnight, fbi agents searched her home taking other boxes and a computer. there are concerns that she could ever receive the classified information. >> i do not believe based on my discussions that there was any crossover between his personal life that he was having with paula and his duties that he was carrying on as the director of the cia. she is in hiding. her father tells the new york daily news that this is about something else entirely. and the truth will come out. what also is...
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number two, as a steward of the fbi how do we keep the fbi from being embroiled in politics unnecessarily. i think the calculus here is what is the flip side of this coin? how would this have affected the election, the white house? >> no, no, no, no. i'm interested -- this -- paula broadwell according to "the wall street journal" had access to classified information on her computer. doesn't that raise red flags. >> i think anyone who has been on the wikileaks website has classified information on their computer. the question is what was it and where did she get it. the fbi was satisfied she didn't get it from david petraeus. that may be a matter between the fbi and paula broadwell later. doesn't have much to do with this. >> i think i saw her shaking your head. you might have a different opinion. >> well, if you were -- i mean, we saw lots of investigations in the military where the allegations were not proven yet. but that the chain of command was made aware that somebody was being looked at for whatever. and so to me it's a little surprising as they got into this that somebody didn't te
number two, as a steward of the fbi how do we keep the fbi from being embroiled in politics unnecessarily. i think the calculus here is what is the flip side of this coin? how would this have affected the election, the white house? >> no, no, no, no. i'm interested -- this -- paula broadwell according to "the wall street journal" had access to classified information on her computer. doesn't that raise red flags. >> i think anyone who has been on the wikileaks website has...